Zenn gearing up for EEStor-powered car

I'll believe it when I see it, they were "supposed" to be ready for production back in 2006. I wish them the best but I stopped holding my breath months ago...

It's obvious at this point that the EEStor device works, and apparently works as described. Cost of the devices said to be 12 to 25% that of li ion batteries. THIS, Gentleman, would be the end of a whole lot of technologies, including hybrids, plug-in hybrids, and the enhancement and greater efficiency of the utility grid and a thousand and one other technologies. IF this works as described,oil is dead and so is the influence of those countries producing large amounts of it.

If this battery is done by the end of 2008, it will need some bake-in time and real use testing before it is ready for prime time. So, a good way to start to test these is with the Zenn NEVs. Major car manufacturers will need at least one to two years of real use data before they will design this battery into their platforms. Plug-in hybrids will still be 95% of the car sales over the next 5-10 years until there is an amazing speed-charging infrastructure in place so people feel confident coming off the gas pump entirely.

The Zenn/EEstor battery will not ever displace every battery type out there, but may be a significant contributor to our future energy grid.

Re: EEStor powered CityZENN targeted for fall 2009
by mrjerry on Mon 31 Mar 2008 09:18 PM EDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Just thinking....
If eestor ultracapacitor (UC) out last our car, will you remove your ultracapacitor and put it in your next car? or your next 2/3/4th cars? is eestor charging to little for a lifetime product?
If you not using your eestor UC and it fully charge from last night and you are home, do we sell it back to the grid during peak hours, or will we charge up a home unit when the grid says we can and use it for our use?
Will we create a smart grid that thinks how to use energy all this stored energy?
Will we need coal to power our energy needs or can we use solar/wind/water?
Will we create and send ships out to sea, with huge wind turbine and eestor UC to capture our energy?
Will you buy your first eestor zenn for the car or the eestor UC?
Will you just simply sell your zenn 3 times what you paid?
How much will insurance cost, or should I say theft premium?
Will we sell the UC on ebay and have the car included?
Will people throw the car away and sell the eestor UC?
Will we go to war for eestor materials, what about the price of nickle will it be the next gold, would you invest in that?
Will lockheed martin use the eestor to create weapons to kill our enemy, if we don't need oil, will we need to create these weapons?
Will foreign country be allowed to purchase eestor inc., or will it be stop because of national security?
Will AL Gore be part of the official announcement of eestor product and how it will change the world?
Will Al Gore take credit for eestor UC or will he be better known for creating the internet?
Will Richard Weir get the Nobel Peace Price, not once but for each patent?
If we had a choice between the internet or eestor UC, will eestor be the easy winner?

Ok, now it's your turn..

I'd also like to believe it's plausible.

The ZENN dealer in my area (Fairfax, VA) claimed this past fall that the car would be ready in January 2008. The salesman even asked if I'd like to place an order. I declined and judging by the company's latest delay, glad I did.

What holds back my optimism in addition to the above actiona is 's stubborn secrecy despite already having a patent: why continue to be tight lipped about the production capability? About demonstrating the battery before the public eye? The only thing that does make sense is the risk-free promises being made boost share prices.

Time will tell. And there are other promising technologies with greater transparency, e.g. MIT's work.

5 mins recharging for a device that holds enough energy to travel 250 miles. That would certainly be one high powered battery charger. I don't think there'd be many homes with the current carrying capacity required to throw that much charge back in so short time.

I want to believe, but I have serious doubts.

If it's true, it would be the biggest energy-related discovery since the atomic weapon. And it will have the same geo-political impact as well.

I have been following this story for quite some time now and I hope like the previous commentor that this is the real deal. If I could invest in EEstor right now I would. Now we just need to make some super efficient low-cost solar panels and the world will be a better place. I hope Tesla Motors jumps on the EEstor bandwagon and starts making cars for the average person as well as an updated super-car.

Does anyone know if EEStor has ever provided Zenn with a working prototype of the storage unit? If so, why wouldn't Zenn provide a demonstration to the public? My guess is they were sold a bunch of hype and are now in a corner. My hope is that this is for real.

The EESTOR charger pack will come with the car,
using off peak power to charge overnight and being capable the next day or so (keeping in mind 250kms is allot of distance), to charge your car in several minutes as quoted.

Not sure how long it would take to slow charge that much power but at the same time, do you really think that thing needs charging every day based on the company's claims?

The work that EEStor is doing with ultracapacitors is the kind of work we should be supporting if we hope to solve our future energy problems. Clean, renewable, and sustainable should be the criteria we use to judge whether an energy source is viable. We need new ideas and the more the better. If EEStor delivers a product that has 50% of what they're claiming right now, it'll still have a viable product that could be used.